Comments on: Monday Musings – Reducing Noise in your photos http://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/ Home of the Learning Digital Photography Podcast with Jason Anderson Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:10:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jasonhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-2176 Jason Mon, 25 May 2009 17:48:58 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-2176 Thanks Eric, for the input. You are correct in that that film grain and digital noise are two different things. However, for the purposes of this post, and just to give a little perspective on the idea that the noise and grain have been around for a while, and have been managed in different ways. The historical reference while factually may not have been presented in the most accurate, was there only to illustrate that speed is a contributing factor to noise (ASA or ISO), and that when you increase the speed used, be definition, the amount of grain/noise will also increase somewhat proportionally. Thanks Eric, for the input. You are correct in that that film grain and digital noise are two different things. However, for the purposes of this post, and just to give a little perspective on the idea that the noise and grain have been around for a while, and have been managed in different ways. The historical reference while factually may not have been presented in the most accurate, was there only to illustrate that speed is a contributing factor to noise (ASA or ISO), and that when you increase the speed used, be definition, the amount of grain/noise will also increase somewhat proportionally.

]]> By: Eric Neilsenhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-2175 Eric Neilsen Mon, 25 May 2009 16:37:52 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-2175 Jason, your musing on film grain and noise are just factually incorrect. Noise and film grain are two distinctly different things. Film grain was NOT solely determined by the film choice, or format, but also by developer and the techniques used to process the film.AS for how to handle noise today, yes there are many ways to handle noise but not all noise is the same; color noise and luminance noise, region - high frequency, low, etc.Where and when to handle noise? The best place after capture is in the RAW converter. However, that option is limited now and although found in LR and PS with ACR it lacks quality. I think you'll see more of the noise reduction software become available to the RAW conversion process. I use both Noiseware Professional (95%) and Neat image ( the remaining 5% of the time). It is applied first thing after opening up an image in PS. Two levels of reduction can be applied and should be done as an output specific step along with sharpening as an output specific idea.Eric Jason, your musing on film grain and noise are just factually incorrect. Noise and film grain are two distinctly different things. Film grain was NOT solely determined by the film choice, or format, but also by developer and the techniques used to process the film.

AS for how to handle noise today, yes there are many ways to handle noise but not all noise is the same; color noise and luminance noise, region – high frequency, low, etc.

Where and when to handle noise? The best place after capture is in the RAW converter. However, that option is limited now and although found in LR and PS with ACR it lacks quality. I think you’ll see more of the noise reduction software become available to the RAW conversion process. I use both Noiseware Professional (95%) and Neat image ( the remaining 5% of the time). It is applied first thing after opening up an image in PS. Two levels of reduction can be applied and should be done as an output specific step along with sharpening as an output specific idea.

Eric

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]]> By: jen rinaldi photographyhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 jen rinaldi photography Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:20:55 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1046 NOISE NINJA ALL THE WAY FOR ME! NOISE NINJA ALL THE WAY FOR ME!

]]> By: Mike Palmerhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Mike Palmer Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:13:27 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1044 DDDDUUUHHHH!!! Nik softwarehttp://www.niksoftware.com/professionalsuite/usa/entry.php?$449.00 use your NAPP discount DDDDUUUHHHH!!! Nik software

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]]> By: Mike Palmerhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1043 Mike Palmer Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:08:19 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1043 you know, I went to OnOne site and it looks like it is no longer available you know, I went to OnOne site and it looks like it is no longer available

]]> By: Jasonhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1042 Jason Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:09:06 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1042 Replace "stupidly" with "humanly" and we're good - I'd hate to think that the human race as a species is stupid! LOL (We've all done it Brian!). Replace “stupidly” with “humanly” and we’re good – I’d hate to think that the human race as a species is stupid! LOL (We’ve all done it Brian!).

]]> By: Brianhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1041 Brian Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:57:51 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1041 Agree on the in-camera methods to reduce noise. When using a high ISO is a requirement (or when I stupidly forget to turn it down), I use Noiseware Professional. It works really well and has lots of easy-to-use presets. Agree on the in-camera methods to reduce noise. When using a high ISO is a requirement (or when I stupidly forget to turn it down), I use Noiseware Professional. It works really well and has lots of easy-to-use presets.

]]> By: Jasonhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1040 Jason Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:58:58 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1040 I like the Cowboys for their cheerleaders! But not for the Superbowl in '72! :DOn the Dfine software - that's pretty cool - I'd heard good things about it but had not given it a whirl yet. How much does that run? I like the Cowboys for their cheerleaders! But not for the Superbowl in ’72! :D

On the Dfine software – that’s pretty cool – I’d heard good things about it but had not given it a whirl yet. How much does that run?

]]> By: Mike Palmerhttp://www.canonblogger.com/2008/09/08/monday-musings-reducing-noise-in-your-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-1039 Mike Palmer Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:31:41 +0000 http://www.canonblogger.com/?p=487#comment-1039 Nice - How bout them Cowboys!! sorry this is a post about noise!! I use Nik Dfine for my noise solution is CS3 - Nice – How bout them Cowboys!! sorry this is a post about noise!! I use Nik Dfine for my noise solution is CS3 -

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